[v01d-general-discussion] Navrh/vyzva na nejaku vec announcovatelnu vo stvrtok

Ferdinand Majerech kiithsacmp at gmail.com
Wed Jan 20 15:02:39 CET 2016


... hej, dobry point, moja chyba.

On 1/20/16, Ľubomír Nagajda <l.nagajda at gmail.com> wrote:
> Fedo, ak sa nejedna o nieco, co musia vediet vsetci v liste, ale len
> konkretna osoba, tak jej napis sukromny mail.
>
> Dňa st 20. 1. 2016 o 14:36 Kapu <kapuoriginal at gmail.com> napísal(a):
>
>> presne to mi napadlo ale nechcel som byt hejter, chojte s tym na IRC!
>>
>> > On 20 Jan 2016, at 15:34, Ferdinand Majerech <kiithsacmp at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > @spacok: vsetko co mi od teba treba je:
>> >
>> > - Ci mas nieco proti datumu/casu:
>> > Saturday ``20.02.2016``, ``13:00-17:30`` @v01d (``Narodna Trieda 74``)
>> >
>> > - Co mam napisat ako nazov/1vetny description tvojej temy, momentalny
>> > placeholder ktory som si ja vymyslel:
>> > * Radoslav Strobl: **DIY Desktop Environment**
>> >
>> >  Building a desktop on Awesome; a Lua programmable Window Manager
>> >
>> >
>> > Mega info overload dojem to robi pre to lebo mame IRC konverzaciu na
>> > mailing liste :p
>> >
>> > FM
>> >
>> > On 1/20/16, spacok <spacok at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> do pice kto to ma citat, fedo sprav nove vlakno k V01d Project Days ja
>> sm
>> >> sa tu stratil a naozaj nemam zaujem teraz citat 300 mailov pre to aby
>> som
>> >> vedel co ti mam na to odpisat
>> >>
>> >> 2016-01-20 14:19 GMT+01:00 Ferdinand Majerech <kiithsacmp at gmail.com>:
>> >>
>> >>> @ventyl tak zajtra please prines ak ta bus nezrazi, pochybujem ze
>> >>> prednasajuci bude mat.
>> >>>
>> >>> Ja mozem VGA-VGA doniest z domu.
>> >>>
>> >>> On 1/20/16, Ferdinand Majerech <kiithsacmp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>> Nemal by byt v01d v hypotetickom idealnom stave otvoreny by default?
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Tiez, na 'den otvorenych dveri' uz by bolo dobre mat nejake hracky
>> >>>> (3D
>> >>>> tlaciaren, retro konzola, nejake roboticke hovadiny, ine projekty
>> >>>> inych ludi) - mi pride ze 'DoD' implikuje nieco grandioznejsie nez
>> >>>> len
>> >>>> par prednasok.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 1/20/16, Ľubomír Nagajda <l.nagajda at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>> Preco to nenazvat den otvorenych dveri vo V01De?
>> >>>>> Sprievodne akcie:
>> >>>>> prednasky, predstavenia projektov blah blah blah...
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Dňa st 20. 1. 2016 o 14:11 Ferdinand Majerech
>> >>>>> <kiithsacmp at gmail.com>
>> >>>>> napísal(a):
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Mozem napisat ze:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Lubomir Nagajda: Work In Progress
>> >>>>>> * Content bude zavisiet od stavu projektu
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Ale chcel by som viac nez len nazov akcie, aby bolo cim lakat,
>> >>>>>> prip.
>> >>>>>> preventivne odradit
>> >>>>>> tych co absolutne nemaju zaujem.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Inac momentalny pracovny nazov bez slova v01d je:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> "Random tech stuff day",
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> nejde mi velmi mozog
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> FM
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 1/20/16, Ľubomír Nagajda <l.nagajda at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>> A musi tam byt uz presny rozpis? Nestaci, ze sa povie datum a
>> >>>>>>> nazov
>> >>>>>> akcie a
>> >>>>>>> obsah bude neskor?
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Dňa st 20. 1. 2016 o 14:03 Ferdinand Majerech
>> >>>>>>> <kiithsacmp at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>> napísal(a):
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Projektor momentalne je vo v01de? Vcera som ho skusal najst ale
>> >>>>>> nenasiel.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Inac ja zvyknem v takej situacii pouzivat masku (aj mam 2 pri
>> >>>>>>>> sebe,
>> >>>>>>>> ale po ~3 pouzitiach len cakaju na vyhodenie).
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Ja pridem zajtra o ~16:30 robit pripravy.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> FM
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On 1/20/16, E D <ventyl86 at netkosice.sk> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> moze;
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> btw; moj sucasny plan je taky, ze ak mi moje kychanie dovoli,
>> >>>>>>>>> tak
>> >>>>>>>>> pojdem do v01du, zoberem projektor, zajtra ho otestujeme vo
>> >>>>>>>>> firme
>> >>>>>>>>> na
>> >>>>>>>>> HDMI hardware-i. vyzera to tak, ze ta redukcia DVI-hdmi je
>> >>> nahovno,
>> >>>>>>>>> pretoze mi s tym stackom mini-dvi / dvi-hdmi a hdmi kabel
>> >>>>>>>>> nesiel
>> >>>>>>>>> ani
>> >>>>>>>>> monitor vo firme, kdezto mini-dvi + hdvi / hdmi z firemneho mac
>> >>>>>>>>> mini
>> >>>>>>>>> chodilo. ale istota je gulomet.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> zajtra tam ale neostanem, nechcem tych ludi niecim nakazit.
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:51 PM, Ferdinand Majerech wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> Mozem to zmenit na ''AND", alebo "&"? Jediny purpose toho OR
>> >>>>>>>>>> je
>> >>>>>>>>>> aby
>> >>>>>> sa
>> >>>>>>>>>> mi to voslo na slide ked to prevediem na slidy (newline bez
>> >>>>>>>>>> paragrafu
>> >>>>>>>>>> by vyzeral neprirodzene).
>> >>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>> On 1/20/16, E D <ventyl86 at netkosice.sk> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>> to OR vypusti. V podstate myslienka by mala byt ta, ze by som
>> >>>>>>>>>>> ukazal
>> >>>>>>>>>>> (nenazorne, to by trvalo dlho a bolo boring), ze programator,
>> >>> USB
>> >>>>>>>>>>> zbernica, jednocip a kondenzator nie su nadavky ani raketova
>> >>> veda
>> >>>>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>>>> ze
>> >>>>>>>>>>> zlozit tieto veci uplne ze ghetto DIY stylom nie je vobec
>> >>>>>>>>>>> ziaden
>> >>>>>>>>>>> problem. A druha cast by bola zamyslenie sa nad tym, ze ak
>> >>>>>>>>>>> som
>> >>>>>>>>>>> zvladol
>> >>>>>>>>>>> programator, o co komplikovanejsie je vlastne dorobit creva
>> >>>>>>>>>>> controlleru k PC, smart domacnosti, alebo akemukolvek inemu
>> >>>>>>>>>>> gadgetu,
>> >>>>>>>>>>> ktory si zaumienim?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 20, 2016, at 1:40 PM, Ferdinand Majerech wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Update v komprimovanej verzii (dam to nakoniec tak lebo 1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> slide
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> +
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> obrazkovy > 5 slidov):
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday ``20.02.2016``, ``13:00-17:30`` @v01d (``Narodna
>> >>> Trieda
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 74``)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Contributors:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Ferdinand Majerech: **The Keyboard Life**
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mechanical keyboards, the excentrics around them, and
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> keyboard
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> UIs
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Radoslav Strobl: **DIY Desktop Environment**
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Building a desktop on Awesome; a Lua programmable Window
>> >>> Manager
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Eduard Drusa: **AVR/embedded ghetto style**
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> How I built my AVR stack from scratch, or how far it is
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> from blinkenlights to a smart home controller
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> * Lubomir Nagajda & Co.: **(I really have no idea)**
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Statisticky pocitacom generovana rec. (?)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/20/16, Ferdinand Majerech <kiithsacmp at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> @ventyl pisal som mail subezne, beriem input.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/20/16, Ferdinand Majerech <kiithsacmp at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OK, kedze zoscrollovat a prepisat 3 riadky je netrivialne,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> aspon
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mi
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> povedzte co mam napisat tu v tomto texte v tomto maili
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> namiesto
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> tych
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> placeholderov co tu su; nazov vasej veci + 1 riadok o tom
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> co
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> je:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tiez ak mate nieco proti datumu/casu napiste; vycucal som
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> si
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ich
>> >>>>>> z
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> prstu.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saturday ``20.02.2016``, ``13:00-17:30`` @v01d (``Narodna
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Trieda
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 74``)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Contributors:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Ferdinand Majerech: **The Keyboard Life**
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mechanical keyboards, the excentrics around them, and
>> >>> keyboard
>> >>>>>> UIs
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Radoslav Strobl: **DIY Desktop Environment**
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Building a desktop on Awesome; a Lua programmable Window
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Manager
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Eduard Drusa: **AVR/embedded ghetto style**
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Basic intro to embedded from scratch
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Lubomir Nagajda & Co.: **(I really have no idea)**
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Statisticky pocitacom generovana rec. (?)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <<<
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Lubo:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "V01d project day" lebo ludia z v01du tam ukazu projekty.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ale je to nahovno nazov, to co ja ukazujem napr. sa neda
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> nazvat
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> projektom, ak mas lepsi navrh napis.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> FM
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/20/16, Ľubomír Nagajda <l.nagajda at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neviem, ci chces "v01d prject day" kde pridu ludia mimo
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v01du.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Predpokladam,ze nie.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dňa st 20. 1. 2016 o 13:13 Ľubomír Nagajda
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <l.nagajda at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napísal(a):
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To boli 3 osobitne navrhy
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dňa st 20. 1. 2016 o 12:57 Ferdinand Majerech
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kiithsacmp at gmail.c
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> m>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napísal(a):
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> V prilohe:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WIP organizacneho prerusenia co chcem zajtra ukazat; v
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ramci
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neho bude
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ten announcement;
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vid "V01D projects day" (lepsi nazov som nevymyslel).
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Styl ignorujte.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> **vsetci co chcete nieco ukazat si to precitajte a
>> >>> povedzte
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mi
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cim to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mam prepisat lebo tam mam vymyslene nazvy/bulletpointy
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> o
>> >>>>>> vasich
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prispevkoch (hlavne Lubo, neviem ci si to napisal 3
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> navrhy
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> alebo 1
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> navrh s 3 vecami**
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - mozno to este skomprimujem len na 1 bulletpoint pre
>> >>> kazdu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prednasku
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a obrazky pod tym, aby ta vlozka/announcement nebola
>> >>> prilis
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dlha.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Este arisum povedal ze by nieco chcel, ale zatial nic
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nenavrhol. Ak
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nieco navrhne este to narychlo budeme musiet premysliet
>> >>>>>> (myslim
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ze
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4x45min prednasky naraz su pri hornej hranici
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zvladnutelnosti
>> >>>>>> -
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aj to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s vacsou pauzou v strede - 5 by sme uz IMO museli
>> >>> rozdelit)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/18/16, Ľubomír Nagajda <l.nagajda at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @spacok.. ako ty povies.. ja nedavam 100 eur na
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> najom..
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dňa po 18. 1. 2016 o 16:37 spacok <spacok at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napísal(a):
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Fedo: nevrav hop kym ventYlovi nepreskoci, on je
>> >>> schopny
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> si tu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kartu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> postavit
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Lubo: nemyslim si ze trieda ktoru by sme mali
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v01d-om
>> >>>>>> zaujat
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trieda
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pseudointelektualov a pseudo umelcov. Svojich miest
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kde
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sa
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mozu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nerealizovat maju dost (tabacka, kasarne). Preto si
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myslim
>> >>>>>> ze
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 z
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nam
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staci.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @ventYl: Fakt ta prosim nezacni tu ghetto grafiku
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stavat
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bo
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zase
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nebudem
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pol roka pri obede pocuvat nic ine iba ako som na tej
>> >>>>>> grafike
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zriesil
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toto
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a ako toto :-P
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-01-18 16:20 GMT+01:00 Ferdinand Majerech
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kiithsacmp at gmail.com>:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @ventyl:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> umelci nejaki urcite budu, ba by som cakal ze budu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tvorit
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> silnu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mensinu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :p
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Lubo:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMO stale ma zmysel ist od nuly, aspon aby to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ukazalo
>> >>> ze
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nie je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taky brutal ako by clovek cakal. Ludia ktori arduino
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nevideli
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nestihnu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mat predsudky. A ludia si nestavaju ghetto graficke
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> karty
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ale
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ghetto
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enginy su stale dost popularne.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/18/16, Ľubomír Nagajda <l.nagajda at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 9z10tich opytanych povie, ze kupit si arduino a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robit
>> >>> s
>> >>>>>> nim
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nieco
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zaujimavejsie, ako robit cely ten cas arduino.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ten jeden je ventyl alebo iny okoloiduci mc Gyver.
>> >>>>>> Pripadne
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cinske
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dieta, ktore ich naozaj robi :D
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nie no.. V podstate ma ventYl pravdu, ale bol by
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> som
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takym
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vyrokom
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> opatrny. Vacsina ludi sa chce zacat ucit
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programovat
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pocitacove
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hry
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bez
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> toho, aby si postavili ghetto graficku kartu.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Urcite zaujimavejsie podanie by bolo, keby si to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludia
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> co
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sa
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> necitia
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ako
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> umelci chceli postavit aj pre ine vyhody ako preto,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ze
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nechcu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> byt
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zaradeny
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ventYlom do skupiny fetakov.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nie?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dňa po 18. 1. 2016 o 15:50 E D
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ventyl86 at netkosice.sk
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napísal(a):
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No to arduino som ako referenciu chcel pouzit cca
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rovine:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Arduino
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doska, ktoru si mozete kupit, naprogramovat a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tvarit
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sa
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> velmi
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> husto.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok, ak ste umelec, alebo fetujete lepidlo. Ale ak
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sa
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> snazite
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> byt
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cokolvek
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aspon trocha blizke IT odvetviu, stale budete take
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iste
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuly
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ako
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chlapci,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> co programuju vo Visual Basicu"
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2016, at 3:43 PM, Ferdinand Majerech
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @ventYl:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neviem ci existuju, ale old-school gamedev je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> taky,
>> >>> ze
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ak
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to ma
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nalepku MS tak to pouziju. To sa zacali oducat az
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nedavno
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (ti
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> novsi
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sa
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to vacsinou ani nenaucili). Viem ze nejake
>> >>> nechutnosti
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existovali
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> davnejsie a potom s niecim robili pred ~8 rokmi,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ale
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neviem
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nakolko
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bol ich HW alebo len nieco co uz dostali.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ten pribehovy sposob je imo dobry. Podla mna 'HW
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> od
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nuly' je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prave
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dobry pristup tym ze nie je vela 'assumed
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> knowledge'
>> >>> -
>> >>>>>> ale
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prave
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> veci
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ako Arduino uz assumed knowledge su - ak stravis
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 10
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minut
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> porovnavanim
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s Arduinom (o ktorom nevedia, takze stravis
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dalsich
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 5
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> minut
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vysvetlovanim co to je), asi len vyplytvas cas.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FM
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/18/16, E D <ventyl86 at netkosice.sk> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Microsoftacke HW nechutnosti existuju?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Predpokladam,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ze
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mimo DX
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrtve a tie intelacke pseudo raspi klony boli asi
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mrtvo
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> narodenym
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> potomstvom, nech sa intel bude snazit sebeviac.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Skor by som cakal, ze gro ludi skor bude ocakavat,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ze
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vytvorit
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> si
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> s
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jednocipakom nieco pouzitelne a skutocne uzitocne
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neskutocne
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> narocne a mimo moznosti bezneho smrtelnika (TM).
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nechcel by som ani, aby ta prednaska bola nejako
>> >>> velmi
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intelegualne
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zatazujuca. Skor by som ju chcel pojat takym hodne
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> komickym
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sposobom
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> odkecat ako pribeh. Aby sa to do 45 minut voslo a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludia
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neboli
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zatazeni zbytocne nejakymi technickymi detailami,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretoze
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bez
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tej workshopovej casti nemalo velky zmysel (a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zaroven
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sa
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trebars
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> na
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nejaky vikend v pripade zaujmu nejaky workshop
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> naplanovat
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dal).
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2016, at 3:27 PM, Ferdinand Majerech
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @ventYl:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Narazam skor na to ze ti co robia trochu HW veci
>> >>> robia
>> >>>>>> asi
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vacsinou
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nejake microsoftacke nechutnosti, ak chces
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vysvetlit
>> >>>>>> preco
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Arduino
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zle, musel by si najprv vysvetlit ze Arduino je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vec
>> >>> co
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> existuje,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> na
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to aby si povedal ze cesta je ciel (co imo berem,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>> myslim
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ze
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aj
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> publikum to bude brat), musis aj tak najprv ukazat
>> >>> kde
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> konci
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lebo
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludom ani nedojde hovoris o niecom cim sa daju
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robit
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (periferie,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> roboty, atd.).
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nie vsetci budu na tom tak zle (napr. Matsuko
>> >>>>>> predpokladam
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ze
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> su
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> na
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tom lepsie), ale napr. GamesFarm (ktorych by to co
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ukazes
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asi
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zaujimalo viac) na tom asi tak zle budu.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FM
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/18/16, Ferdinand Majerech
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kiithsacmp at gmail.com
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Lubo fix: 'toto by mne nevyhovovalo' => 'toto by
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mne
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vyhovovalo'
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/18/16, E D <ventyl86 at netkosice.sk> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> S planmi je to tak, ze zivot je otazkou priorit.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Myslim,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ze ak
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> oznamene mesiac + dopredu, tak plan nie je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vyhovorka.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bud
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prist
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chcem
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a pridem, alebo nechcem a potom si vymyslim dovod,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preco
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sa
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> neda.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @FM:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no motivatory by som videl 3:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Arduino je readymade +- blackbox. Neviem nic o
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tom,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ako to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> funguje.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Opisujem example z webu a tesim sa, ze mi funguju.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0%
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> invention.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - cesta je ciel. Aj kvoli niecomu tak primitivnemu
>> >>> ako
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LEDkova
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blikacka musi clovek odviest kopec prace. Potom je
>> >>> ale
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vidno,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ze
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aj na
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prvy pohlad komplikovane vyzerajuce veci su v
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skutocnosti
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jednoduche
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> na realizaciu (napr. USB periferia)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - a ked uz vieme, ze USB periferia je jednoducha
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> na
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> realizaciu,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> preco
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> si nejaku nepostavit (napr. nove creva do
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controllera)?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Ľubomír Nagajda
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @FM
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ja svoje budem mat urcite hotove, lebo mam v queue
>> >>> inu
>> >>>>>> vec
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ktoru
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chcem riesit od februara a chlapec so
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spracovavanim
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dat
>> >>>>>> uz
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prezentoval na neakej konferencii, len k tomu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doraba
>> >>>>>> neaky
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kod,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> takze to bude tiez koncom mesiaca urcite.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ta ruka je otazna.. zatial funguje ukazovak :D To
>> >>>>>> nechajme
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> otvorene
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do buducna.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @FM again
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vikendy budu podla mna problem. Cez vikend maju
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludia
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plany s
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rodinou, priatelmi, bicyklom, lyzami, psom, zenou,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vysavacom...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atd.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dňa po 18. 1. 2016 o 14:32 Ferdinand Majerech
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <kiithsacmp at gmail.com>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> napísal(a):
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @ventYl:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Myslim ze by to bolo velmi dobre len na zaciatku
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>> >>> sa
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zisla
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivacia
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - predpokladam ze par ludi nebude inac vediet co
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sa
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deje.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Napr.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> motivacia pre mna (a s tym co robia napr. v
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GamesFarm
>> >>>>>> toto
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bolo
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> relevantne aj pre nich) by bola vytvorit si custom
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gamepad/klavesnicu/input device - co sme hovorili
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sobotu.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mozno
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ta
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lubova vec sama o sebe by bola dobra motivacia.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> @Lubo: keby ze sa nedostanete do kompletneho
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stadia
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (moje
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ocakavanie,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lebo projekty sa pretahuju - prave robim na troch
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> co
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mali
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> byt
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dokoncene do decembra)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vedeli by ste to stale ukazat rozrobene?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> K casu: ku 'koncu februara' su 2 vikendy, a este
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> keby
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> som
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chcel
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dat
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sobotu (lebo vacsina takychto vikendovych veci je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sobotu), je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20.2 a 27.2 . 20.2 by bolo lepsie v tom zmysle ze
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presne
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mesiac
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> od meetupu - nie prilis dlho, ale 27.2 by asi bolo
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lepsie
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lebo
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sa
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stanu necakane problemy a nebudeme stihat. Ako to
>> >>>>>> vyhovuje
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vam?
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 1/18/16, spacok <spacok at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To je v poho, na odchyt viem zohnat palicu so
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sluckou
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ako
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pouzivaju na
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ochyt tulavych psov :-P
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2016-01-18 13:14 GMT+01:00 E D
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ventyl86 at netkosice.sk>:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> No, ja som uz davno asi 2 roky dozadu mal chut
>> >>> spravit
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> workshop
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fuckoff
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> arduino: AVR ghetto style.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vtedy som chcel priamo na prednaske poskladat zo
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suciastok a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dosky
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> programator, ale teraz mi je jasne, ze by to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zabralo
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vela
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> casu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (dajme
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tomu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tak 16h cisteho casu +), takze tieto workshopoidne
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> casti
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by som
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> skipol a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> riesil by som iba "cesta je ciel" cast s tym, ze
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ten,
>> >>>>>> koho
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zaujimalo
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> si
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ma moze odchytit a pomozem mu s tym.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 45 minut si myslim, ze by som naplnil.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 18, 2016, at 10:40 AM, Ferdinand Majerech
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caute,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Predpokladam ze par ludi uz serem tymito
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vyzvami...
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ale
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zase
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nemozem
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> povedat ze by som s tym planoval skoncit.)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vyzera ze na gamedev meetup pride dost ludi, a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> zase
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buducnosti
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (marec nie, ale maj dost mozno) sa to asi presunie
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> na
>> >>>>>> UPJS
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lebo
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v01du sa to nevojde. Takze by som chcel vyuzit
>> >>>>>> prilezitost
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *teraz* aby
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sme prilakali par ludi.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chcel by som vo stvrtok pocas stretnutia
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> announcovat
>> >>>>>> nieco
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> typu:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $DAY.$MON.2016 v priestoroch v01du bude $STUFF,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kde
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $STUFF je nieco :
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * co zaujima alebo sa tomu venuju ludia z v01du
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * nie je to gamedev
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * co zaujima aj technickych este-nie-v01d-clenov,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ako
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ludia co
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pridu na
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meetup
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A chcem aby $STUFF bolo viac nez jedna vec, od
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *viac
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nez
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jedneho
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cloveka*. Jednu z tych veci spravim - ale nieco
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ine
>> >>> by
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> musel
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> spravit
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> niekto iny (ventyl, spacok, Lubo, arisum, jeden z
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hibernujucich
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clenov, kto chcete).
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navrh 1:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Niekolko prednasok/inych prispevkov tykajucich sa
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kozmonautiky
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (lebo o
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tom vie nieco povedat aspon ventyl/spacok/ja a je
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> momentalne
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> popularne).
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Napr: (vyvoj ruskeho vesmirneho programu,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buducnost
>> >>>>>> pohonu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vo
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vakuu,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> znovupouzitelnost rakiet, kolonizovatelnost telies
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> slnecnej
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sustavy,
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> atd.)
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Navrh 2:
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Viacero ukazok projektov/veci co kto prave robi.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Napr. ja by som vedel nieco povedat o 'emulatoroch
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> robeni
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vlastnej
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> konzoly' alebo 'klavesnicovej filozofii
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (vim/pentadactyl/awesome/mechanicke
>> >>>>>> klavesnice/cmus/atd)',
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'jazyku D a jeho ekosysteme', atd.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Myslim ze tu by boli OK aj recyklovane veci, napr.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ak
>> >>>>>> mate
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> prednasku
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> co ste uz robili.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ak by sme to chceli spravit, trebalo by nam zoznam
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> veci
>> >>>>>> co
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> budu
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> *a*
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> datum - uz vo stvrtok, co je o 3 dni. Datum by som
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> predpokladal
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> niekde
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> medzi tymto a dalsim gamedev meetupom - napr.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> koniec
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> februara.
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FM
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v01d-general-discussion mailing list
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v01d-general-discussion at lists.v01d.sk
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> https://lists.v01d.sk/mailman/listinfo/v01d-general-discussion
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v01d-general-discussion mailing list
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v01d-general-discussion at lists.v01d.sk
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> https://lists.v01d.sk/mailman/listinfo/v01d-general-discussion
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v01d-general-discussion mailing list
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> v01d-general-discussion at lists.v01d.sk
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> https://lists.v01d.sk/mailman/listinfo/v01d-general-discussion
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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